IcUrdazedandconfused

Just want to get some clarification on striking stuff on the green:

If you chip from off the green, and hit opponents club / towel / etc
What about your own gear?

Then on the green:
If you putt, and hit the flagstick, that ha been placed "well" out of
the way by your opponent

What about if you hit your opponents ball as you putt (think of a
situation where he didn't mark because "there is no way I could
possibly hit that ball"

Thx

Firstname MI Lastname

IcUrdazedandconfused <> writes:

> Just want to get some clarification on striking stuff on the green:
>
> If you chip from off the green, and hit opponents club / towel / etc
> What about your own gear?
>
> Then on the green:
> If you putt, and hit the flagstick, that ha been placed "well" out of
> the way by your opponent
>
> What about if you hit your opponents ball as you putt (think of a
> situation where he didn't mark because "there is no way I could
> possibly hit that ball"

See Rules 17 (flagstick) and 19 (deflections of balls in motion).

Kev

On Oct 1, 7:36 am, IcUrdazedandconfused <IcUrda...@confused.net>
wrote:
> Just want to get some clarification on striking stuff on the green:
>
I could look them up, but that takes all the challenge out of it.

> If you chip from off the green, and hit opponents club / towel / etc

You incurr a penalty I believe, and play it as it lies.

> What about your own gear?

Even more sure about this one. A glowing exception I believe
is your cart which I don't think is considered part of your equipment.

>
> Then on the green:
> If you putt, and hit the flagstick, that ha been placed "well" out of
> the way by your opponent

Apparently not well enough. Same schtick.

>
> What about if you hit your opponents ball as you putt (think of a
> situation where he didn't mark because "there is no way I could
> possibly hit that ball"

This is the one I know I'd have to look up, but.....

He should have asked you to mark. His penalty. You replace,
I think he may have to replay the shot.

Now I'll go look up the rules and see if I was right....

Firstname MI Lastname

Kev <> writes:

> On Oct 1, 7:36 am, IcUrdazedandconfused <IcUrda...@confused.net>
> wrote:
> > Just want to get some clarification on striking stuff on the green:
> >
> I could look them up, but that takes all the challenge out of it.
>
> > If you chip from off the green, and hit opponents club / towel / etc
>
> You incurr a penalty I believe, and play it as it lies.
>
> > What about your own gear?
>
> Even more sure about this one. A glowing exception I believe
> is your cart which I don't think is considered part of your equipment.
>
> >
> > Then on the green:
> > If you putt, and hit the flagstick, that ha been placed "well" out of
> > the way by your opponent
>
> Apparently not well enough. Same schtick.
>
> >
> > What about if you hit your opponents ball as you putt (think of a
> > situation where he didn't mark because "there is no way I could
> > possibly hit that ball"
>
> This is the one I know I'd have to look up, but.....
>
> He should have asked you to mark. His penalty. You replace,
> I think he may have to replay the shot.
>
> Now I'll go look up the rules and see if I was right....

You'll be disappointed.

Tom Yost

On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 05:07:35 -0700 (PDT), Kev <>
wrote:

>On Oct 1, 7:36 am, IcUrdazedandconfused <IcUrda...@confused.net>
>wrote:
>> Just want to get some clarification on striking stuff on the green:
>>
> I could look them up, but that takes all the challenge out of it.
>
>> If you chip from off the green, and hit opponents club / towel / etc
>
> You incurr a penalty I believe, and play it as it lies.
>
>> What about your own gear?
>
> Even more sure about this one. A glowing exception I believe
>is your cart which I don't think is considered part of your equipment.
>
>>
>> Then on the green:
>> If you putt, and hit the flagstick, that ha been placed "well" out of
>> the way by your opponent
>
> Apparently not well enough. Same schtick.
>
>>
>> What about if you hit your opponents ball as you putt (think of a
>> situation where he didn't mark because "there is no way I could
>> possibly hit that ball"
>
> This is the one I know I'd have to look up, but.....
>
> He should have asked you to mark. His penalty. You replace,
>I think he may have to replay the shot.
>
> Now I'll go look up the rules and see if I was right....
>
>
Kev, you're a virtual fountain of wrong information.

Rob Davis

IcUrdazedandconfused wrote:
> Just want to get some clarification on striking stuff on the green:
>
> If you chip from off the green, and hit opponents club / towel / etc
> What about your own gear?

Your gear = 1 stroke penalty. Opponents gear = no penalty (although I
think there's a "do-over" option in match play) (19-2 and 19-3)

> Then on the green:
> If you putt, and hit the flagstick, that ha been placed "well" out of
> the way by your opponent

I believe this is 2 strokes (17-3).

> What about if you hit your opponents ball as you putt (think of a
> situation where he didn't mark because "there is no way I could
> possibly hit that ball"

2 stroke penalty on you (stroke play only) (19-5a). His ball is
replaced, yours is played as is. If there's even the *slightest* chance
you may it another ball, you should ask it to be marked.

> Thx
>

You're welcome,

Rob

Kev

On Oct 1, 9:25 am, Tom Yost <t...@bloodyvikings.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 05:07:35 -0700 (PDT), Kev <zipplewr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Oct 1, 7:36 am, IcUrdazedandconfused <IcUrda...@confused.net>
> >wrote:
[snip]

Okay, ya'll got me curious enough.

> >> If you chip from off the green, and hit opponents club / towel / etc
>
> >   You incurr a penalty I believe, and play it as it lies.

Damn. Apparently you're free to target your opponent. Okay, only
"accidentally".

> >> What about your own gear?
>
> >    Even more sure about this one.  A glowing exception I believe
> >is your cart which I don't think is considered part of your equipment.

Okay, you can't target your own gear, not even accidentally.
And that includes "your" cart, which is yours even if you are sharing
it with your competitor. But if he is driving it at the time, then it
is
his cart.

> >> Then on the green:
> >> If you putt, and hit the flagstick, that ha been placed "well" out of
> >> the way by your opponent
>
> >    Apparently not well enough.  Same schtick.

You're not allowed to hit the flag stick, when putting from the
green,
regardless of where it is. Alternately, if your opponent is about to
accidently hit a flag stick sitting on the green, and you pick it up,
you're penalized.

> >> What about if you hit your opponents ball as you putt (think of a
> >> situation where he didn't mark because "there is no way I could
> >> possibly hit that ball"
>
> >    This is the one I know I'd have to look up, but.....
>
> >    He should have asked you to mark.  His penalty.  You replace,
> >I think he may have to replay the shot.

Okay, I was half right. He gets a penalty, but he plays his shot
as it
lies. You have to replace your ball.

> >    Now I'll go look up the rules and see if I was right....
>
>   Kev, you're a virtual fountain of wrong information.-

Oh, if you only knew. But hey, I was told once that you learn
more from failure than success.

Johnty

On 1 Oct, 19:48, Kev <zipplewr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 1, 9:25 am, Tom Yost <t...@bloodyvikings.com> wrote:> On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 05:07:35 -0700 (PDT), Kev <zipplewr...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > >On Oct 1, 7:36 am, IcUrdazedandconfused <IcUrda...@confused.net>
> > >wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>  Okay, ya'll got me curious enough.
>
> > >> If you chip from off the green, and hit opponents club / towel / etc
>
> > >   You incurr a penalty I believe, and play it as it lies.
>
>    Damn.  Apparently you're free to target your opponent.  Okay, only
> "accidentally".
>
> > >> What about your own gear?
>
> > >    Even more sure about this one.  A glowing exception I believe
> > >is your cart which I don't think is considered part of your equipment.
>
>    Okay, you can't target your own gear, not even accidentally.
> And that includes "your" cart, which is yours even if you are sharing
> it with your competitor.  But if he is driving it at the time, then it
> is
> his cart.
>
> > >> Then on the green:
> > >> If you putt, and hit the flagstick, that ha been placed "well" out of
> > >> the way by your opponent
>
> > >    Apparently not well enough.  Same schtick.
>
>     You're not allowed to hit the flag stick, when putting from the
> green,
> regardless of where it is.  Alternately, if your opponent is about to
> accidently hit a flag stick sitting on the green, and you pick it up,
> you're penalized.
>
> > >> What about if you hit your opponents ball as you putt (think of a
> > >> situation where he didn't mark because "there is no way I could
> > >> possibly hit that ball"
>
> > >    This is the one I know I'd have to look up, but.....
>
> > >    He should have asked you to mark.  His penalty.  You replace,
> > >I think he may have to replay the shot.
>
>     Okay, I was half right.  He gets a penalty, but he plays his shot
> as it
> lies.  You have to replace your ball.
>
> > >    Now I'll go look up the rules and see if I was right....
>
> >   Kev, you're a virtual fountain of wrong information.-
>
>   Oh, if you only knew.  But hey, I was told once that you learn
> more from failure than success.



Sad to report, you're not really much better having looked the rules
up.

Kev

On Oct 1, 4:05 pm, johnty <john...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 1 Oct, 19:48, Kev <zipplewr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 1, 9:25 am, Tom Yost <t...@bloodyvikings.com> wrote:> On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 05:07:35 -0700 (PDT), Kev <zipplewr...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > >On Oct 1, 7:36 am, IcUrdazedandconfused <IcUrda...@confused.net>
> > > >wrote:
>
> > [snip]
>
> >  Okay, ya'll got me curious enough.
>
> > > >> If you chip from off the green, and hit opponents club / towel / etc
>
> > > >   You incurr a penalty I believe, and play it as it lies.
>
> >    Damn.  Apparently you're free to target your opponent.  Okay, only
> > "accidentally".
>
> > > >> What about your own gear?
>
> > > >    Even more sure about this one.  A glowing exception I believe
> > > >is your cart which I don't think is considered part of your equipment.
>
> >    Okay, you can't target your own gear, not even accidentally.
> > And that includes "your" cart, which is yours even if you are sharing
> > it with your competitor.  But if he is driving it at the time, then it
> > is
> > his cart.
>
> > > >> Then on the green:
> > > >> If you putt, and hit the flagstick, that ha been placed "well" out of
> > > >> the way by your opponent
>
> > > >    Apparently not well enough.  Same schtick.
>
> >     You're not allowed to hit the flag stick, when putting from the
> > green,
> > regardless of where it is.  Alternately, if your opponent is about to
> > accidently hit a flag stick sitting on the green, and you pick it up,
> > you're penalized.
>
> > > >> What about if you hit your opponents ball as you putt (think of a
> > > >> situation where he didn't mark because "there is no way I could
> > > >> possibly hit that ball"
>
> > > >    This is the one I know I'd have to look up, but.....
>
> > > >    He should have asked you to mark.  His penalty.  You replace,
> > > >I think he may have to replay the shot.
>
> >     Okay, I was half right.  He gets a penalty, but he plays his shot
> > as it
> > lies.  You have to replace your ball.
>
> > > >    Now I'll go look up the rules and see if I was right....
>
> > >   Kev, you're a virtual fountain of wrong information.-
>
> >   Oh, if you only knew.  But hey, I was told once that you learn
> > more from failure than success.
>
> Sad to report, you're not really much better having looked the rules
> up.-

Such as?

IcUrdazedandconfused

On Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:45:23 GMT, Rob Davis <>
wrote:

>
>
>IcUrdazedandconfused wrote:
>> Just want to get some clarification on striking stuff on the green:
>>
>> If you chip from off the green, and hit opponents club / towel / etc
>> What about your own gear?
>
>Your gear = 1 stroke penalty. Opponents gear = no penalty (although I
>think there's a "do-over" option in match play) (19-2 and 19-3)
>
>> Then on the green:
>> If you putt, and hit the flagstick, that ha been placed "well" out of
>> the way by your opponent
>
>I believe this is 2 strokes (17-3).
>
>> What about if you hit your opponents ball as you putt (think of a
>> situation where he didn't mark because "there is no way I could
>> possibly hit that ball"
>
>2 stroke penalty on you (stroke play only) (19-5a). His ball is
>replaced, yours is played as is. If there's even the *slightest* chance
>you may it another ball, you should ask it to be marked.
>
>> Thx
>>
>
>You're welcome,
>
>Rob
Thanks Rob....